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  • The Official Mystic Wicks Satanism FAQ.

    Hello All!

    After seeing the interest, misconceptions, and frequent questions that I get from those wondering about Satanism, I have decided to devote a thread to the topic to promote a degree of understanding to those of willing ears. This FAQ is designed to be brief and stripped down to the essentials; however, click on names and subjects to find a link to a more in-depth resource.

    Before I continue I would just like to say that this is not a thread of attempting to convert anyone or promote my beliefs. This thread was made with good intent and is not tainted with self-promotion or recruitment.

    Note: I will add more in the future and will continue to update this thread as time goes on or if interest grows in this little project of mine! lol

    That being said I present to you:


    The Official MysticWicks Satanism FAQ:
    Or:
    "Mommy Why do the Satanists get Mad When I Flip Their Pentacle Right Side
    Up?"



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    Section One: The FAQ


    Do you guys believe in Satan?
    No, Satan is just an archetype in our view. We are athiests and do not believe such an entity exists.

    If you don't believe in Satan, why do you call ourselves "Satanists?"
    Through readings of philosophy and the bible we believe that Satan was in fact the image of the "human animal." We find that our actions and views on the world are in line with the mythical figure of Satan.

    Please Read The Nine Satanic Satanic Statements in Section Two.

    The Christians have the cross, the pagans have the pentacle, what is your symbol?
    The inverted pentacle or the "baphomet"

    "In the middle ages the Baphomet was believed to be an idol, represented by a human skull, a stuffed humans head or a metal or wooden human head with curly black hair. The idol was said to be worshipped by the Order of Knights Templar as the source of fertility and wealth. In 1307 King Phillip IV of France accused the Order of the Knights Templar of heresy, homosexuality and among other things, worshipping this idol and anointing it with the fat of murdered children. However, only 12 of the 231 knights interrogated by the church admitted worshipping or having knowledge of the Baphomet. Novices said they had been instructed to worship the idol as their god and savior, and their descriptions of it varied: it had up to three heards and up to four feet; it was made of either wood or metal, or was a painting, sometimes it was a gift."

    Exert from this website.



    Why do you say "Hail Satan"?"
    Hail Satan is an equivalent to "Hail Me."

    Do you believe in God?
    We are athiests....

    Do you believe in the Afterlife?
    We are athiests....

    Who started Satanism and is he alive today?
    Anton LaVey (1930-1997) began Satanism and passed away in 1997 of heart ailments on the 29th. He began the Church of Satan in May 1966 after much inspiration from his various careers and readings of philosophy. The Church of Satan is now headed by his former secretary turned wife Blanche Barton (mother of Xerxes LaVey) with the assistance of his eldest daughter Karla LaVey. One of his daughters, Zeena LaVey is currently in a legal dispute over ownership. (My personal input: Zeena LaVey has no right as Anton left it to Blanche Barton in his will.....)

    Anton wrote quite a few books including The Satanic Bible, The Satanic Witch and The Satanic Rituals, The Devil's Notebook, and Satan Speaks. He also recorded a few rather eerie albums such as Satan Takes a Holiday.

    Fun Fact: He played the devil in the classic film Rosemary's Baby.

    Here is his picture:


    What influences did LaVey use to create Satanism?
    Aleister Crowley, John Dee & Kelly, Chaos Magic, Kabballah, The Knights Templar, Quantum Physics and Nietzsche.

    Are Satanists selfish and cruel?
    There are people out there who call themselves "Satanists" who actually are not part of the Alien Elite (see below) who may be that way. That being said I will delve into the "ego" of the Satanist.

    We love ourselves, take pride in our selves, and offer love to those who we see as deserving rather than love wasted on ingrates. We tend to avoid people who irritate us or attempt to harm ourselves or those near to us. We reject people who generally commit The Nine Satanic Sins (see Section Two)...or that we find otherwise distasteful on a personal level.

    We do not believe in the harm of animals, children, or others. Read The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth in Section Two for the exact rules on the subject.

    Who are/What is the "Alien Elite?"
    We believe that Satanists are born, not made. Those who are meant to be Satanists will be Satanists regardless of if they have a knowledge of who LaVey is or not. There are people out there who are not Satanists but we consider to operate on the same level as us as they have traits we favour, such as intelligence. We tend to see quite a few people as sheep as they believe whatever they are told and never question or work in their interest.

    Here is a picture of a satanist at birth...

    Some may develop horns slower than others.

    I heard that Satanists value animals more highly than humans? is this true?
    We believe that human beings are animals like any other being on this Earth. We are clever animals but we believe some people are better than non-human animals, and many are less than those who walk on all fours. We are all animals requiring food, sex, water, and an enironment for survivial.

    Eg: I would save the life of a cat over that of a pedophile.

    Do Satanists mistreat children?
    No, we regard them as the world's natural magicians. They are the only innocence in an otherwise corrupt world and must be protected and treated exceptionally well.

    Satanists dislike Pagans.
    This depends on the Satanist; however, I will have to say this. If it doesn't effect us we don't really care. We may not believe what many pagans do but we respect that you have found your own path rather than accepting whatever religions have been forced upon you. A lot of Satanists love history so they tend to find common ground with reconstructionists and other historically themed pagan groupings.

    Do Satanists practice magic?
    In a way, yes. We have Lesser and Greater magic.

    What is Lesser and Greater Magic?
    I will use and exerpt from Anton himself to describe it.

    "Ritual magic consists of the performance of a formal ceremony, taking place, at least in part, within the confines of an area set aside for such purposes and at a specific time... purely an emotional, rather than intellectual, act. Any and all intellectual activity must take place before the ceremony, not during it. This type of magic is sometimes known as "GREATER MAGIC". "
    Anton LaVey, The Satanic Bible, Book of Belial: 1


    "Non-ritual or manipulative magic, sometimes called "LESSER MAGIC", consists of the wile and guile obtained through various devices and contrived situations, which when utilized, can create 'change, in accordance with one's will'. "
    Anton LaVey, The Satanic Bible, Book of Belial: 1


    What do Satanists think of abortion? same sex marriages and other hot-topic issues?
    Each Satanist is different, but the main belief is whatever people chose to do is their business if it does not effect us. We believe that living your life the best you can and living it for you, not to please others.

    There is this guy next door who says he is a Satanist and walks around in dark clothing trying to capture cats for rituals, do you know him?
    There are TONS of posers and cults that form from individuals who want to exploit the faith and/or have their own "image" to make their parents get concerned. Be wary of such people.

    Sections Two: Statements, Rules, and Core Beliefs.

    The Nine Satanic Statements

    I Satan represents indulgence, instead of abstinence!
    II Satan represents vital existence, instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
    III Satan represents undefiled wisdom, instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
    IV Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wasted on ingrates!
    V Satan represents vengeance, instead of turning the other cheek!
    VI Satan represents responsibility to the responsible, instead of concern for psychic vampires!
    VII Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual development, has become the most vicious animal of all!
    VIII Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!
    IX Satan is the best friend the church has ever had, as he has kept it in business all these years!

    From the Satanic Bible

    The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth

    I Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
    II Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure that they want to hear them.
    III When in another's lair, show him respect or else do not go there.
    IV If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
    V Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
    VI Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the person and he cries out to be relieved.
    VII Acknowledge the power of magic if you have used it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
    VIII Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
    IX Do not harm little children.
    X Do not kill non-human animals unless attacked or for your food.
    XI When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.

    Anton Szandor LaVey, 1967 c.e.


    The Nine Satanic Sins

    Stupidity -- The top of the list for Satanic Sins. The Cardinal Sin of Satanism. It's too bad that stupidity isn't painful. Ignorance is one thing, but our society thrives increasingly on stupidity. It depends on people going along with whatever they are told. The media promotes a cultivated stupidity as a posture that is not only acceptable but laudable. Satanists must learn to see through the tricks and cannot afford to be stupid.

    Pretentiousness -- Empty posturing can be most irritating and isn't applying the cardinal rules of Lesser Magic. On equal footing with stupidity for what keeps the money in circulation these days. Everyone's made to feel like a big shot, whether they can come up with the goods or not.

    Solipsism -- Can be very dangerous for Satanists. Projecting your reactions, responses and sensibilities onto someone who is probably far less attuned than you are. It is the mistake of expecting people to give you the same consideration, courtesy and respect that you naturally give them. They won't. Instead, Satanists must strive to apply the dictum of "Do unto others as they do unto you." It's work for most of us and requires constant vigilance lest you slip into a comfortable illusion of everyone being like you. As has been said, certain utopias would be ideal in a nation of philosophers, but unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately, from a Machiavellian standpoint) we are far from that point.

    Self-deceit -- It's in the Nine Satanic Statements but deserves to be repeated here. Another cardinal sin. We must not pay homage to any of the sacred cows presented to us, including the roles we are expected to play ourselves. The only time self-deceit should be entered into is when it's fun, and with awareness. But then, it's not self-deceit!

    Herd Conformity -- That's obvious from a Satanic stance. It's all right to conform toa person's wishes, if it ultimately benefits you. But only fools follow along with the herd, letting an impersonal entity dictate to you. The key is to choose a master wisely instead of being enslaved by the whims of the many.

    Lack of Perspective -- Again, this one can lead to a lot of pain for a Satanist. You must never lose sight of who and what you are, and what a threat you can be, by your very existence. We are making history right now, every day. Always keep the wider historical and social picture in mind. That is an important key to both Lesser and Greater Magic. See the patterns and fit things together as you want the pieces to fall into place. Do not be swayed by herd constraints -- know that you are working on another level entirely from the rest of the world.

    Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies -- Be aware that this is one of the keys to brainwashing people into accepting something "new" and "different," when in reality it's something that was once widely accepted but is now presented in a new package. We are expected to rave about the genius of the "creator" and forget the original. This makes for a disposable society.

    Counterproductive Pride -- That first word is important. Pride is great up to the point you begin to throw out the baby with the bathwater. The rule of Satanism is: if it works for you, great. When it stops working for you, when you've painted yourself into a corner and the only way out is to say, "I'm sorry, I made a mistake, I wish we could compromise somehow," then do it.

    Lack of Aesthetics -- This is the physical application of the Balance Factor. Aesthetics is important in Lesser Magic and should be cultivated. It is obvious that no one can collect any money off classical standards of beauty and form most of the time so they are discouraged in a consumer society, but "an eye" for for beauty, for balance, is an essential Satanic tool and must be applied for greatest magical effectiveness. It's not what's supposed to be pleasing -- it's what is. Aesthetics is a personal thing, reflective of one's own nature, but there are universally pleasing and harmonious configurations that should not be denied.

    Anton Szandor LaVey, 1987 c.e.

    Section Three: Recommended Reading and Websites:

    Websites:

    The Church of Satan, Satanism 101, Magic and Ritual in Satanism,

    Recommended Reading:

    Books Written by LaVey: The Satanic Bible, The Satanic Rituals, The Devil's Notebook, Satan Speaks!, The Satanic Witch

    Other Books of Interest:
    The Secret Life of a Satanist: The Authorized Biography of Anton LaVey.

    The books listed can be searched on Chapters by clicking here.
    Last edited by Muireannach; May 14th, 2004, 04:03 AM.

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    Thanks. This provides a wonderful overview of your path.
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    • #3
      Thank you! I enjoyed our PMs a few months back about what Satanism is and isn't. This thread seems to pull a lot of information into one convenient spot. I appreciate your effort.
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      • #4
        Thank you for taking the time to clarify what Satanists are/aren't in a very well thought out manner and in "laman" terms. I aprechiate the opportunity to become less ignorant and look forward to future information.
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        • #5
          The statements about humans is fact. We are animals, mammals and we are the most aggressive preditor on the planet. Thats is all fact. Glad to see you are helping people understand you view. Good job.
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          • #6
            Thanks for the positive feedback

            I jsut noted a demand for information among the board and all the threads popping up and thought I could clarify things a bit.

            It's nice to hear it appreciated *hugs all*

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            • #7
              Just had a question pop in my head on the way back from lunch. I know that parents raise their children with their brand of religion. When two Satanist parents raise their child, I would assume they would do the same. But to protect their child from the stereotypes of the world, do they have that child hide the fact that their family are Satanists?

              Consider: little Johnny goes to school and the kids are talking about Christmas, Yule, etc... and if little Johnny says, we don't celebrate those, we are Satanists, I would envision a pummeling being administered to little Johnny by the other kids for being an evil devil loving freak. Never mind that that is not what it is, to most of the world, that's what the term Satanist means. And I would then assume that their school career will be, to pardon the pun, Hell, from then on.

              How would such an upbringing have to be altered for the child's protection?
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              • #8
                I just read through your FAQ, and I must say how incredibly interesting it was! Thanks for providing such a resource here at MW.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DragonsChest
                  Just had a question pop in my head on the way back from lunch. I know that parents raise their children with their brand of religion. When two Satanist parents raise their child, I would assume they would do the same. But to protect their child from the stereotypes of the world, do they have that child hide the fact that their family are Satanists?

                  Consider: little Johnny goes to school and the kids are talking about Christmas, Yule, etc... and if little Johnny says, we don't celebrate those, we are Satanists, I would envision a pummeling being administered to little Johnny by the other kids for being an evil devil loving freak. Never mind that that is not what it is, to most of the world, that's what the term Satanist means. And I would then assume that their school career will be, to pardon the pun, Hell, from then on.

                  How would such an upbringing have to be altered for the child's protection?
                  Excellent point.

                  Recently there was a thread on the Satanism 101 website on the subject. The general consensus was that our children can be whatever religion they like. The reasoning is simple, the majority of us are people who grew up being forced to be Christian and don't with to do the same to our children. Here are a few posts of interest from various Satanists:

                  http://satanism101.com/bbs/viewtopic...227&highlight=

                  Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2004 7:57 pm Post subject:

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                  I'd say you shouldn't raise your kids anything. One of the biggest msitakes a parent can make is enforcing a child to be the person you want them to be. I was forced to be Catholic, and I mean forced, and if anything it is the one rift between my parents and I.

                  However, the best way for children to learn is from the example of the parents. If you are a Satanist, you shall be their example. If your child is breaking a rule or committing a sin simply correct them, but don't bring out the Satanic bible and preach to them, or tell them what exatcly they violated.

                  Children are their own people, you give them their boundaries and allow them to be themselves and when they grow they will chose a faith, or none at all, for themselves. If they ask what you are, tell them and explain it to them, but do not make them believe that they are Satanist simply because they are of your flesh.


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                  But also many people want to follow in the footsteps of their parents.
                  I dont know how many christians,muslims, hindos, became satanists.
                  But I think it is a small percentage%.
                  I really dont want my kid believing in god. I hope I wont have that problem.


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                  Just teach your child sense and reason and you wont have that problem. If your child is truely logical, they will find Satanism for themselves.



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                  I see a lot of people these days claiming it's inherently unSatanic to "raise your Children as Satanists." Well, I hate to burst some peoples' bubbles, but even Anton LaVey raised his children to be Satanists. This doesn't mean that you're perogative must now be to raise your kids up as Satanists too but I don't think it's an inherently bad thing to to do it.

                  As a parent, you'll know if it's right for your children. You'll know if they can handle it at their age and how they'll act about being raised with it. And we are Satanists after all so our manner of sharing and instilling in our youth our values is not going to be anything like theistic indoctrination.

                  I personally plan on raising my own "blood children" as Satanists, and as a "step-father" of a wonderful and brilliant 9 year old I am already part of a family that does this to some extent.

                  You just have to understand the difference between force feeding and teaching. My step-son is well aware that he is allowed to question, and to disagree, but so long as he does want mine and his mother's teaching then he shall receive it. He shall be "raised in Satanism" if that is what he wants and can handle.

                  You introduce it and let it smoothly go from there if you know you're child isn't going to go blabbing about it. And yes, you'll even have to figure out whether or not your child is actually a Satanist by nature. You can really tell if a kid is forcing himself to do something or not, more so than you can with adults because kids are more prone to fly free as they are than adults are.

                  But this is my opinion, not the Satanic doctrine that must be abided by or anything. All I'm saying is that raising your children in your religion is not contradictory to Satanism, and really, most of the Satanists with families I've talked to raise their children as Satanists.


                  Now, getting back to what to do if someone chooses to get their child into the Satanic religion. One thing is really to make sure the child is educated about satanism and is therefore able to prove false claims around them wrong. People tend to spew off what the media tells them and it is important to inform the child of that, and that we don't go around talking about religion in school. We do celebrate holidays, because they bring us pleasure! lol. We just minus out the religious stuff.

                  Here is a link regarding the media creating accusations against Satanists (Heraldo Rivera in particular) it is very interesting. http://www.religioustolerance.org/geraldo.htm

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                  • #10
                    I just read through your FAQ, and I must say how incredibly interesting it was! Thanks for providing such a resource here at MW.
                    No problem!

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                    • #11
                      Question - since Satanists are atheists, do you consider Satanism to be a religion or a philosophy?
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                      • #12
                        I would like to add, this was my childhood:
                        My father was a satanist, my mom a Jesus freak. My mom was the one who hurt people with her behavior and practised deceit. My dad was a good man. He was honest.

                        My mom people in general considered good. My dad was called evil. I was embarrassed of my moms selfish and cruel ways and my dad I respected for his honesty. As a child and an adult, no one would believe me that my dad was the good person that didnt hurt anyone and that my mom was horrible. My mom was like a cult leader out for personal gain. My dad minded his own business. It was a hard life.

                        I am of neither path. I found my own.
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                        • #13
                          Question - since Satanists are atheists, do you consider Satanism to be a religion or a philosophy?
                          This has been an issue of debate; however, I tend to think of it more as a philosophy for those like myself who simply have an appetite to acquire knowledge and live it. This seems to be the general feeling of many Satanists. The argument can be made however that the Church of Satan is a "Church" and therefore is a religious body.

                          Here is a thread in one of the forums that debates the issue further

                          http://satanism101.com/bbs/viewtopic...ight=religious

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                          • #14
                            I would like to add, this was my childhood:
                            My father was a satanist, my mom a Jesus freak. My mom was the one who hurt people with her behavior and practised deceit. My dad was a good man. He was honest.

                            My mom people in general considered good. My dad was called evil. I was embarrassed of my moms selfish and cruel ways and my dad I respected for his honesty. As a child and an adult, no one would believe me that my dad was the good person that didnt hurt anyone and that my mom was horrible. My mom was like a cult leader out for personal gain. My dad minded his own business. It was a hard life.

                            I am of neither path. I found my own
                            Good for you, it just goes to show that children are their own people and not a copy of their parents. It also shows that the "goodness" of people should not be based on what you think their path is.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DragonsChest
                              How would such an upbringing have to be altered for the child's protection?
                              Just a thought, but if the following is true:
                              Originally posted by Muireannach
                              We believe that Satanists are born, not made. Those who are meant to be Satanists will be Satanists regardless of if they have a knowledge of who LaVey is or not.
                              Then it really doesn't matter how you raise your children or what "name" you give it, because they will get there anyway.

                              I was raised by a baptist grandmother, Catholic grandfather and christian mother. Yet, I have always had my Pagan beliefs, it was only a short while ago that I realized there was a "name" for what I have always known in my heart to be my truth.

                              Being a Pagan mom, I raise my kids to believe whatever they want. They sometimes attend various churchs, but when they ask me a pointed question, I give the generic "some people believe this, some believe this, I believe this, but you can decide what's right for you" because regardless of what I teach them in regard to faith, they will find their own way when they are ready.
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