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    for those of you that use it, what are you referring to when you say it?

    (I mean how do you use it personally, don't need an explaination of the phrase itself.)
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  • #2
    Good question. I think that when I use the term I am refering to all forms of Witchcraft including Wicca. when I say my Craft I am referring to my personal path only. i will have to see if that is what I realy do, but this is what comes to mind when i think about the term Craft.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Fiamma View Post
      for those of you that use it, what are you referring to when you say it?
      The movie ...

      Seriously though, I really don't use that term in reference to magick and witchcraft. I can see it being used in reference to spells & rituals, but I generally avoid it and refer to my practices as rituals or beliefs.

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      • #4
        Actually, the only time I do use that term is in reference to the movie.:hahugh:

        I don't use it any other time as far as I recall.
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        • #5
          I avoid the words "craft & witch" because they both cause the Christians to freak out & look at you like your crazy.

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          • #6
            "The Craft" -> The occult.

            Everyone's craft is different (but of course mine is the bestest of all the restest), so I can't see any use for it other than as a widespread conglomeration of magical, natural, supernatural and other phenomena and practices.

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            • #7
              I use it in terms of my hobby which is community theatre.

              Me and some of my like minded different beliefs friends write direct act in and produce plays on every level in this small town.

              for awhile we called it punk rock theatre because in this twon we charged $5 for seats that would get $20 or more dollars for any other show.Unless it was a punk concert which also cost $5.

              we hold the dubious honor of having a gay couple walk out of a pro-gay play for being too prejudiced. the straight hate reviews came from those that stayed till the end of the play and saw what the play actually was.

              anyways a bit long but yeah. when I use the term the craft I mean theatre.

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              • #8
                IMO, "the craft" tends to be a short hand version of witchcraft and it may sound a lot "nicer" to other people.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Aidron View Post
                  "The Craft" -> The occult.
                  Everyone's craft is different...so I can't see any use for it other than as a widespread conglomeration of magical, natural, supernatural and other phenomena and practices.
                  Yeah, that's how I use it.
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                  • #10
                    I believe I read somewhere that the original usage of the phrase was by Masons. In general usage, it tends to refer to any kind of practice, specifically occult practices in particular.
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                    • #11
                      The term "craft" as power and ability, and particularly associated with the supernatural, far predate the Masons.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Carla O'Harris View Post
                        The term "craft" as power and ability, and particularly associated with the supernatural, far predate the Masons.
                        What I meant was the use of the phrase "The Craft." There's a difference. And thanks for all of those helpful references you provided to back up your blanket statement.:fpraise:
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                        • #13
                          I've said 10,000 times that I am not going to do everyone's homework for them! Let me tell you something. I have done a great deal of reading in very reputable sources, and I don't have time to footnote everything I say.

                          http://lexicon.ff.cuni.cz/html/oe_bo...ler/b0168.html

                          CRئFT, es; m. ...III. craft of mind, cunning, knowledge, science, talent, ability, faculty, excellence, virtue ... Chauc. craft: Laym. crوft, craft: Orm. crafft: Plat, kraft, kracht: O. Sax. kraft, m. and f: Frs. O. Frs. kreft: Dut. kracht, f: Kil. kracht: Ger. M. H. Ger. O. H. Ger. kraft, f: Dan. kraft, m. f: Swed. kraft, m: Icel. kraptr, kraftr, m.] DER. aclو-acute;c-crوft, و-acute;-, لtor-, beadu-, bealo-, bَc-, deَfol-, dreلm-, dr‎-, dwol-, ellen-, firen-, flيter-, galdor-, gleَ-, gْ‏-, hell-, hyge-, lو-acute;ce-, lلr-, leornung-, leَ‏-, leoًo-, leًَu-, mَd-, mor‏or-, nearo-, ofer-, rيm-, sang-, sceَp-, scيn-, scip-, scَp-, searo-, snytro-, stوf-, sundor-, swinsung-, tungel-, tungol-, un-, wوl-, wic-, wicce-, wيg-, word-, woruld-, wَ‏-, wundor-.
                          http://www.northvegr.org/vigfusson/354.php

                          kraptr or kraftr, ... might, strength, or power ... krafta-verk...'power-work', a miracle ... powers, supernatural, whence krapta-skald, a 'power-skald
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Carla O'Harris View Post
                            I've said 10,000 times that I am not going to do everyone's homework for them! Let me tell you something. I have done a great deal of reading in very reputable sources, and I don't have time to footnote everything I say.

                            http://lexicon.ff.cuni.cz/html/oe_bo...ler/b0168.html



                            http://www.northvegr.org/vigfusson/354.php



                            There's a few for you. You do the rest.
                            You still don't see the difference between the word craft and the phrase "The Craft."
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by morganxpage View Post
                              What I meant was the use of the phrase "The Craft." There's a difference. And thanks for all of those helpful references you provided to back up your blanket statement.:fpraise:

                              Carla used the exact same number of references in her post as you did in yours to which she was responding. I went back and counted. So what was meant by"your blanket statement" exatly?
                              Last edited by Desert_Witch; January 3rd, 2007, 06:22 AM. Reason: clarification
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                              and do not reflect those of his Wife, Children, Friends and Family, or arguably, any sane individual. READER DISCRETION is advised.:deviltail

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