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    I read on another site that people that practice Traditional Witchcraft don't like being called a witch. The person that wrote the article for the site said that they consider it a dirty word. Could you please explain this in detail if you have the answer.

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    Originally posted by Sekhmet Soul30 View Post
    I read on another site that people that practice Traditional Witchcraft don't like being called a witch. The person that wrote the article for the site said that they consider it a dirty word. Could you please explain this in detail if you have the answer.
    No I can't because it is not true of all practictioners. I call myself a witch openly.

    Some groups are paranoid, some are trying to be all super sekret and a few follow the "tell no one what thou doest lest ye hang" to the letter.

    Most need to realize that in the majority of your civilized countries in this day and age nobody cares if you are a witch. Not saying there aren't still prejudices, just saying it isn't the death sentence it used to be 100 years ago.

    Please note I am not saying that people are not killed for being/claiming to be/accused of being a witch in this day, I'm saying it is no longer the norm.
    Khara's Chaos

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    • #3
      This is actually sort of a difficult thing to answer. Difficulty arising in the sense of just what are you defining as "Traditional" witchcraft?

      As one who descends from a Family Trad I can tell you my family would get pretty pissed being called "Witches", especially generic witches. They are wise women and men, Granny Magicians, Folk Practioners, traditonalist, Dowsers (waterwitches), etc but never just plain old witch.

      But like I said, without knowing what defination is being used for "Traditional" one can not trully say.

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      • #4
        I went back to look at the article and I'm getting that it's most likely due to the fact that Wicca is so popular and Traditional's don't like that it has nothing to do with how they practice. I'm talking about circle casting, Full Moon celebrations being more important than Festivals, things like that. Of course that's only my opinion and I'm sure that some might not feel this way.

        Thanks for the time in listening to me and thanks for your comments. More would be appreciated as I like hearing what everyone has to say.
        Last edited by Sekhmet Soul30; March 25th, 2011, 07:19 PM.

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        • #5
          What other site would that happen to be by the way? The subject matter appeared to be opinions regarding the preference and choice of the label witch, either the term itself, or practices that were described as such in a certain period of time, but your second post made reference to the specific non-secular witchcraft tradition of Wicca. If a site is making this distinction, and disassociating with Wicca, but follows other non-secular practices, it's likely that they're actually parading under traditions that are ironically inspired by Wicca.
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          • #6
            How is Cornish Witchcraft part of Wicca? The man that had the video's is part of the Peller Tradition and he was showing off some of the things that was either part of his working tools, like the skulls which he said are spirit houses, wand, more skulls, and things that were part of the Witchcraft Museum. He made it very clear that this isn't pink and fluffy witchcraft but old school.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh1Fi...layer_embedded
            Last edited by Sekhmet Soul30; March 25th, 2011, 07:17 PM.

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            • #7
              Here's where I got the info about some Traditionalists not liking the word witch. I hope that you don't have to sign up to see it. Here's the link.

              http://thevampirmetrou.ning.com/grou...and-witchcraft

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              • #8
                Let me do a correction on the last post. Here's were I really got the info from about Traditionalists not liking the word witch and considering it an ugly word. Sorry if I might of given you the wrong information but still the link provides some really good information about the difference between Wicca and Witchcraft.

                http://www.spelwerx.com/wvtw.html

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sekhmet Soul30 View Post
                  I read on another site that people that practice Traditional Witchcraft don't like being called a witch. The person that wrote the article for the site said that they consider it a dirty word. Could you please explain this in detail if you have the answer.
                  Instead of posting a vague question from some "other" site, why don't you just ask there? None of us can tell you why they do it, because we are not them, and have no context outside of whatever you tell us.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Sekhmet Soul30 View Post
                    I read on another site that people that practice Traditional Witchcraft don't like being called a witch. The person that wrote the article for the site said that they consider it a dirty word. Could you please explain this in detail if you have the answer.
                    I've never heard that before!
                    Harvest Moon Australia

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by melodye View Post
                      I've never heard that before!
                      There's a lot of things that I've never heard before. Traditional Witchcraft seems very interesting even if it's confusing. I know that it's folk tradition and that those that practiced old school witchcraft would put pins in poppets, cast curses, do wishes, healed, protected people from black witches, things like that. It seems that bones are also part of the tradition with the spirit houses and stuff.

                      I personally hope that I can go over there and see the Museum. I also read that Traditional Witches believe that Wiccans can't be witches.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RoseKitten View Post
                        Instead of posting a vague question from some "other" site, why don't you just ask there? None of us can tell you why they do it, because we are not them, and have no context outside of whatever you tell us.
                        Sorry about that, RoseKitten. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the whole thing. Of course the video is really cool and I agree not your pink and fluffy kind of witchcraft. I showed my mother the video and she thought it was totally gross, lol :bigredgri.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sekhmet Soul30 View Post
                          How is Cornish Witchcraft part of Wicca? The man that had the video's is part of the Peller Tradition and he was showing off some of the things that was either part of his working tools, like the skulls which he said are spirit houses, wand, more skulls, and things that were part of the Witchcraft Museum. He made it very clear that this isn't pink and fluffy witchcraft but old school.
                          One thing you have to remember is the notion of Spirit Houses, Spirit Keepers, Spirit Bodies, etc are all found the world over. Many times deeply rooted in customs that are reflective of ancestor worship and veneration. Many times also associated with death magics or aiding the deceased to cross the viel.

                          From a shamanic perspective one often times keeps relics or bones to be used in contacting spirit guides. It also is used to create regalia which is used in tying one to the spirit realm or aiding them in transformation and shapeshifting.

                          Yet most of the practices I referenced have nothing to do with "Traditional" witchcraft. Well not in the sense that westernized influences paint anyway.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sekhmet Soul30 View Post
                            Let me do a correction on the last post. Here's were I really got the info from about Traditionalists not liking the word witch and considering it an ugly word. Sorry if I might of given you the wrong information but still the link provides some really good information about the difference between Wicca and Witchcraft.

                            http://www.spelwerx.com/wvtw.html
                            It looks like it's the same article published on both sites, and also just as I have suspected. There's only a few facts stated about Traditional Wicca, and then many repeats of misinformation regarding "modern", (I'm assuming Eclectic) Wicca, and neo-pagan beliefs within the New Age movement. I've noticed a trend among many "Traditional Witches", that attempt to disassociate and "debunk" Wicca with these same references and misinformation, that does nothing more than make them stand out like a sore thumb as someone that has no clue or experience within Wicca, i.e. Traditional Wicca/Gardnerian&Alexandrian Witchcraft.

                            First of all, I'm not sure exactly how many of these people actually bothered to pursue Traditional Wicca, but neophytes become aware if its history early on as most covens have recommended reading lists, with requited books such as Hutton's The Triumph of the Moon, and Wicca Magickal Beginnings(That gets into the whole grimoire tradition and occult influence, something that actual historic cunning-folk and charmers, most of actually literate, possessed) to be read. The part involving the Sabbats mentioned as well, the author of the article appears limited on Wiccan history, as it should be well known that the Lesser Sabbats were later additions to the wheel of the year. Many neophytes are required to write essays&theses, requiring study of the Sabbats(essays that don't cease upon initiation in some covens anyway) where it'll be known that the Bricketwood coven incorporated these days, as Gardner's mates wanted more days to party basically.

                            There are further indicators that individuals of this sort were never Wiccans, therefore are ignorant to its inner-court tradition. Wicca isn't all "love&light", a lot of the public laws are nothing more than guidelines, and other than its occult influence, does incorporate historic folk traditions. Other than some of the Ozark& Appalachian trads in the States, very rarely have I noticed a genuine "Traditional Witch." Most of them seem to follow paths that they created themselves. Witchcraft is a secular art, therefore most supposed traditions that mention holidays and deities are influenced by Wicca whether they realise it or not.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sekhmet Soul30 View Post
                              There's a lot of things that I've never heard before. Traditional Witchcraft seems very interesting even if it's confusing. I know that it's folk tradition and that those that practiced old school witchcraft would put pins in poppets, cast curses, do wishes, healed, protected people from black witches, things like that. It seems that bones are also part of the tradition with the spirit houses and stuff.

                              I personally hope that I can go over there and see the Museum. I also read that Traditional Witches believe that Wiccans can't be witches.
                              I practice Traditional Witchcraft and I am yet to meet one Traditional Witch that does not like the term witch.
                              Harvest Moon Australia

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